Hi, Ville wrote: > On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, Matus "fantomas" Uhlar wrote: > > > -> He's right that a "hiding" algorithm should be there, but > > -> I think its hard to implement. I dont like it either but > > -> would be nice for the people who are tired of smurf and other > > -> TCP/IP attacks. > > > you are solving problem which doesn't exist for now and i am not sure if it > > will exist "then" > > I would appreciate an English translation of the phrase you just used. > > So, you are saying 'smurf and other TCP/IP attacks' don't exist now? Or > that they do not pose any actual problem? > I'm sure that he means that smurf attacks are mainly directed at servers, not users. Most abuse tools have counter patches available - baring smurf and the other bandwidth related 'weapons' However IMHO hiding hostmasks allow for abuse, bot and otherwise, hiding part hostmasks means that all small-medium ISP's will get smurfed and takeovers will come from ISP's with huge bandwidth's, not to mention the fact that whilst servers can be smurfed, attacks failing on a user (whom are usually abusing to get 'attacked') because of hidden hostmask will warrant a server attack - affecting, possibly 1000's of users.... The only real way of stopping the abuse of users/servers is to stop the abusers of the system from getting the power in the first place, or even giving them the desire to get the power - easy solution get rid of _all_ the abusers - without question..... IRCnet & other nets would be come a nicer place - even with only 100 users left out of 34,000. Abusers/abuse will only be stopped with effective 'policing' - and that means too much work - particually for some admins - and the good work of some admins against the lazyness of others create great feeling of satisfaction with some of the abusers, especially when they use it to their advantage...... I would say that this is wandering from the topic though... probably better to direct this mail to other lists..... -- Yours Matthew -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Accept that some days you are a pigeon, and some days you are the statue.
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