Re: thoughts on new modes (Ie)

["Saso" <raven@xxxxxxxx>]

On Wed, 25 Nov 1998, Genady wrote:

> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 21:23:50 +0200
> From: Genady <lucky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: ircd-users@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: thoughts on new modes (Ie)
> 
> Exactly the same I thought about yesterday ;)
> Do it.

Congratulations Chris!

<cynism> You finally put in words what most of us have been thinking about
for a long time ago, or maybe not so long time ago, but definitely short
enough time not to post it on this list. But still the thing is we stand
right _behind_ you and we certainly will not let others do something
nasty.</cynism>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christophe Kalt <kalt@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: ircd-users@xxxxxxx <ircd-users@xxxxxxx>
> Date: Wednesday, 25 November 1998 21:21
> Subject: thoughts on new modes (Ie)
> 
> 
> >I can see a pattern developping where these modes are used
> >in a way which was not intended originally.
> >
> >The purpose of these modes is to provide exceptions (to the
> >mode +i, and to bans); instead I fear they will mostly be
> >used as a prevention method: "I am chanop, let me set +eI
> >for myself in case I need it later".
> >
> >I think this is bad, and here are a set of actions we could
> >take to avoid this:
> >
> >* +I can only be set when the channel is +i
> >* furthermore, setting the channel -i removes all +I entries
> >
> >* +e <foo> can only be set if <foo> matches a current ban
> >* +e entries are removed once they no longer match a current ban
> >
> >Thoughts?

<question>
Both modes are of course really useful and i bet we all will use it quite
a lot in our every-week chatting on irc, but how do they behave when a
split (not that i would see some lately, but still, let's leave it open)
occurs and one side has +I for certain host and other side has that host
banned? I apologize if this has been discussed over before, it just came
to my exhausted mind.
</question>

One simple thought tho. It would be nice, if +I/+e could NOT be altered
within few seconds/minutes after the netmerge occured, just to prevent
more help such modes could give to accidental takeovers (we all know those
are purely accidental, right?).

/me

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