Re: ND/CD, collisions, ^Go whining

[Ville <viha@xxxxxx>]

Oops.

Forgot to include at least one point in my earlier mail:

We supposedly have some operator coverage, and people can't
just keep doing a few thousand collisions per an hour without
somebody noticing and rerouting or in fixing it in some other
way.


- Ville/viha@xxxxxx

On Sun, 17 Jan 1999, Ville wrote:

> (Please be gentle with me if some (preferrably all) of these things
>  already exist in the  latest 2.10's ;-)
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I noticed the conversation about the collision->random nickname patch
> pretty much dying without enough effect.
> 
> Some people used "it would result in an awful collision chain" as a
> reason _against_ this. Wrong, wrong, wrong.
> 
> Currently collision chains are just the case! People collide people to
> annoy the heck out of them (the victims lose ops on "their" channels
> and have to reconnect, also having their nicknames ND'ed).
> 
> The person abusing a one-way lag to collide will not in any case
> get killed himself, anyway. He can very well go on colliding even
> if the person in the other end gets killed. Because simply enough,
> the kill message does not get thru. One client is enough to do this
> to hundreds of people.
> 
> If the randnick patch is applied, collisions will lose their use. It
> will not be fun or "useful" to collide anyone anymore, because the
> server automatically restores all the modes and does not throw him
> off (except ircd-wise).
> 
> Seeing the benefits a 30 min CD (in change for the 15 minute one, as
> per 2.9.5) gives, I'd propose removing the "Cannot enter channel before
> CD expires" feature. Instead, if at all manageable to code, let the server
> keep all channels open (just like before the split occured) but not give
> anyone ops before the CD of 30 mins is over (except if the channel was
> opless, as they already are open and give @ on join, even with 2.9.5).
> 
> *** Users on channel #plah: @user luser
> *** Signoff: user (server1 server2)
> *** Users on channel #plah: luser
> *** luser left channel #plah
> *** luser joined channel #plah
> *** Users on channel #plah: luser
> *** user has joined channel #plah (+o)
> 
> This will definitely stop all the crap about an army of bots all trying
> to enter the channel every two seconds. If they do, they will have a hard
> time getting all their bots to "cycle" at the right time, at least without
> a random bypasser entering the channel and stopping them from emptying
> the channel.
> 
> 
> PS. Another issue: Might be a bit late to whine, but I think the ^Go
>     format for modes to clients should have stayed #define'able. IMO
>     It looked quite clean, after the majority of clients finally started
>     understanding it.
> 
> 
> Later,
> 
> - Ville/viha@xxxxxx