Re: Anonymous mode for !-channels

[Matthew Sullivan <matthew@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

hmmm..

Ville wrote:

> On Wed, 9 Dec 1998, Michael Neumayer wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Dec 09, 1998 at 05:00:04PM +0100, Robert Martin-Legene wrote:
> > > So in general... don't set this bit if you want to be able to kick + ban
> > > kids^H^H^H^Hpeople acting like idiots?
>
> > So better don't allow +a at all. It's good for abuse. *Nothing* else.
>
> Uh huh.
>
> Well, at least for myself, I'd say that's not the case. I frequent one
> &channel that is +a. It usually averages 5 to 10 users. Anonymous
> !-channels are IMO a good thing (and occasionally fun). That way, the
> people interested in it won't have to bother jumping to the correct
> server to join the &+a-channel in question (or even start up an extra
> client).
>

Assuming you have a valid I line on the server that you want to join on.....(most of
the time it seems you don't)

> As !-channels are uncollidable (and very theoretically takeover-proof),
> it is assumed that the original owners (eek) do know what they want to do
> with their channel and thus +a does not provide lusers with such a big
> load of new means for abuse.

But as +a would opers be needed?  ie you can't kick/ban +i or +k maybe set/unset,
granted, but when the owner goes off-line that can no longer be changed, baring in
mind, how can you op an anonymous person?

> About the (un)removablity of +a on !channels, hmm. Obviously an ethical
> question, but on the other hand - I'd say some people would get quite a
> bit upset, if they accidentally set +a and are unable to unset it.
>

> I'd say +a should be unsettable to avoid this, but nothing else.

IMHO would say they would, but -a would give a greater oppertunity for abuse,
however a safety could be used to prevent accidental setting. eg must be set twice
within a certain amount of time... or perhaps -a limited to within a certain amount
of time say 2 minutes.

Just my thoughts...

Matthew aka Mickey

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